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	<title>Comments on: The child with no Zwarte Piet issues</title>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
		<link>http://www.meetcuracao.com/2009/12/03/the-child-with-no-zwarte-piet-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11724</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids see only two things when it comes to Sinterklaas and those are presents and punishment (and not black or white).

Ben ik het niet mee eens. Kinderen zien Sinterklaas als een feest, niets meer en niets minder. Er zijn genoeg kinderen die niets krijgen, ook geen straf.
Vorige week is hier in Ned. een kleine rel ontstaan bij het arriveren van de Sint.Mensen liepen daar met een shirt &quot;Zwarte Piet is racisme
Hallo zeg, je kunt ook overdrijven en doorslaan in actie voeren tegen racisme!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids see only two things when it comes to Sinterklaas and those are presents and punishment (and not black or white).</p>
<p>Ben ik het niet mee eens. Kinderen zien Sinterklaas als een feest, niets meer en niets minder. Er zijn genoeg kinderen die niets krijgen, ook geen straf.<br />
Vorige week is hier in Ned. een kleine rel ontstaan bij het arriveren van de Sint.Mensen liepen daar met een shirt &#8220;Zwarte Piet is racisme<br />
Hallo zeg, je kunt ook overdrijven en doorslaan in actie voeren tegen racisme!</p>
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		<title>By: Ace Suares</title>
		<link>http://www.meetcuracao.com/2009/12/03/the-child-with-no-zwarte-piet-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11723</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace Suares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey David! Just for the record, you and I, we have no beef, I think we respect each other especially in our profession, so this is just discourse - healthy discourse.

So, you want to punch kids in the face. I punched a gown up in the face, once, and he went to hospital. I have learned to refrain from punching people in the face and especially children, since they are in most cases more easily broken then grown ups.

But that was not what my reaction to your post was about (it was retweeted by Sebastian from Meetcuracao). The reaction was about children learning the wrong things from the Zwarte Piet festivities.

And I think you concur with that notion; for you blame the parents to impress these racist ideas upon the children.

And that&#039;s exactly the point. You&#039;re the parent now, David. You got to stop defending teaching kids racism associated this Sinterklaasfest. 

Please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David! Just for the record, you and I, we have no beef, I think we respect each other especially in our profession, so this is just discourse &#8211; healthy discourse.</p>
<p>So, you want to punch kids in the face. I punched a gown up in the face, once, and he went to hospital. I have learned to refrain from punching people in the face and especially children, since they are in most cases more easily broken then grown ups.</p>
<p>But that was not what my reaction to your post was about (it was retweeted by Sebastian from Meetcuracao). The reaction was about children learning the wrong things from the Zwarte Piet festivities.</p>
<p>And I think you concur with that notion; for you blame the parents to impress these racist ideas upon the children.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s exactly the point. You&#8217;re the parent now, David. You got to stop defending teaching kids racism associated this Sinterklaasfest. </p>
<p>Please?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.meetcuracao.com/2009/12/03/the-child-with-no-zwarte-piet-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11722</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I don&#039;t even remember writing this. 

Either way, I&#039;m sorry you had a, what sounds to me to be, very unpleasant experience with a number of children Ace. While I don&#039;t condone their behavior,I will chalk it up to sample size. A bunch of &quot;rotten apples&quot; should not make us generalize and say that children are not innocent. Yeah, some kids suck and you&#039;ll want to punch them in the face, but a child in general is pretty innocent and will usually see the world differently than you and me.

You and I see Black vs White. We see the white man &quot;owning&quot; a black worker. We see the ball and chain. Kids, in general, see candy and presents. They see a silly guy in face paint and an old man who is going to bring them goodies.

If some kids treated me like they treated you, I&#039;d look to their parents first, before I say that children are not innocent. At the end of the day, a child will behave according to its education..according to the morals and ethics which are passed on by the parents. If they treated you with racism, it&#039;s because their parents need to be kicked in the genitals for doing a shitty job...not because some guy on a horse promises them presents if they behave well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I don&#8217;t even remember writing this. </p>
<p>Either way, I&#8217;m sorry you had a, what sounds to me to be, very unpleasant experience with a number of children Ace. While I don&#8217;t condone their behavior,I will chalk it up to sample size. A bunch of &#8220;rotten apples&#8221; should not make us generalize and say that children are not innocent. Yeah, some kids suck and you&#8217;ll want to punch them in the face, but a child in general is pretty innocent and will usually see the world differently than you and me.</p>
<p>You and I see Black vs White. We see the white man &#8220;owning&#8221; a black worker. We see the ball and chain. Kids, in general, see candy and presents. They see a silly guy in face paint and an old man who is going to bring them goodies.</p>
<p>If some kids treated me like they treated you, I&#8217;d look to their parents first, before I say that children are not innocent. At the end of the day, a child will behave according to its education..according to the morals and ethics which are passed on by the parents. If they treated you with racism, it&#8217;s because their parents need to be kicked in the genitals for doing a shitty job&#8230;not because some guy on a horse promises them presents if they behave well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace Suares</title>
		<link>http://www.meetcuracao.com/2009/12/03/the-child-with-no-zwarte-piet-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11720</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace Suares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, yes that&#039;s how it is. Children are innocent and hence see no racism. That&#039;s why when I brought my kids to the kndergarten when I lived in a white neighbourhood, all kids treated me like a normal father of one of their playmates. 

Yes, except around Zinterklaas. Then they started to dive away in panic, but never mind, these where probably the non-innocent children anyway. And I can assure you, I didn&#039;t wear golden earrings, lipstick, or funny and colorful clothes. 

Still these innocent kids saw it right away: dark skinned person = zwarte piet.

Of course YOU don&#039;t have that experience, eh David, and now ask your self why you don&#039;t have that experience, and give a honest freaking answer why you never experienced a bunch of white kids scared of you around 5 December.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, yes that&#8217;s how it is. Children are innocent and hence see no racism. That&#8217;s why when I brought my kids to the kndergarten when I lived in a white neighbourhood, all kids treated me like a normal father of one of their playmates. </p>
<p>Yes, except around Zinterklaas. Then they started to dive away in panic, but never mind, these where probably the non-innocent children anyway. And I can assure you, I didn&#8217;t wear golden earrings, lipstick, or funny and colorful clothes. </p>
<p>Still these innocent kids saw it right away: dark skinned person = zwarte piet.</p>
<p>Of course YOU don&#8217;t have that experience, eh David, and now ask your self why you don&#8217;t have that experience, and give a honest freaking answer why you never experienced a bunch of white kids scared of you around 5 December.</p>
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		<title>By: giomar</title>
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		<dc:creator>giomar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kiko mi tin ku hasi pami partiesipa pa zwartepiet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kiko mi tin ku hasi pami partiesipa pa zwartepiet</p>
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		<title>By: giomar</title>
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		<dc:creator>giomar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kiko mi tin ku hasi pami bira zwartepiet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kiko mi tin ku hasi pami bira zwartepiet</p>
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		<title>By: Candice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See this is why Sinterklaas is only for children. Because (some) adults always take everything to the extreme. Everything always leads to racism. it gets tiring.Children don&#039;t care.... they presents!! Ugh People don&#039;t have imagination anymore. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if people start dissing Santa Clause for animal abuse because he hits the rein deers with a whip lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this is why Sinterklaas is only for children. Because (some) adults always take everything to the extreme. Everything always leads to racism. it gets tiring.Children don&#8217;t care&#8230;. they presents!! Ugh People don&#8217;t have imagination anymore. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if people start dissing Santa Clause for animal abuse because he hits the rein deers with a whip lol</p>
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		<title>By: Devin Balentina</title>
		<link>http://www.meetcuracao.com/2009/12/03/the-child-with-no-zwarte-piet-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-7060</link>
		<dc:creator>Devin Balentina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not racist and people all taking this way too far. But as always, well written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not racist and people all taking this way too far. But as always, well written.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastiaan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastiaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Adam Here the link which works without the dots. http://www.vjmovement.com/truth/515 
Nice video but the people in the movie were so incredibly gray and boring that I decided to retire now from this discussion ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Adam Here the link which works without the dots. <a href="http://www.vjmovement.com/truth/515" rel="nofollow">http://www.vjmovement.com/truth/515</a><br />
Nice video but the people in the movie were so incredibly gray and boring that I decided to retire now from this discussion <img src='http://www.meetcuracao.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember asking my grandmother the same question. She told me that he has this universal key that can open any door..

The answer was good enough for me. It meant that I was assured of getting presents and that&#039;s all I needed to know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember asking my grandmother the same question. She told me that he has this universal key that can open any door..</p>
<p>The answer was good enough for me. It meant that I was assured of getting presents and that&#8217;s all I needed to know!</p>
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